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(@hydr0c1d3)
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Some people recommend this as first cycle. Others say its not the best but better then Dbol only atleast. But for the ones who do recommend this should I still get some Nolv increase of bloat/gyno? I know I'm getting clomid for post but wasnt sure about the Nolv(not like its expensive anyways) I'll be doing 400mg weekly.


   
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 fazz
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mmmm, intersting, dont know how that would work, might need some test in there, intersted to see how it works though, post your result bro. good luck.


   
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BigWill
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First cycle ALWAYS use test. If you want a really kick ass cycle use 500mg test/400mg EQ for 12 weeks.


   
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Feli Fly
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Posted by: BigWill
First cycle ALWAYS use test...

From all I've learned, definetly couldn't agree more as far as a first cycle; gains would not be what they could w/o test... but...

How do the bros here feel about EQ alone for subsequent cycles?

...Just curious since it sounds like it would be fine for some leaner gains, increasing vascularity, and the appetite increase would be a plus also... Since you pretty much avoid the real fun problem that I've read deca alone gives , EQ solo should be pretty good right? It looks that way to me... on paper at least... I'd be interested in opinions.


   
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Posted by: Feli Fly
How do the bros here feel about EQ alone for subsequent cycles? .

The more cycles you do and the more serious you get for building muscle the more you will want to stack.


   
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shortz
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There are a few bros that have done Eq only. The only thing I can tell you is that you won't build mass while on only Eq, but, you can get harder and stronger, you just won't have the mass to go with it. If all you were looking to do is loose some BF while dieting, it may be worth it, but in all honesty, you will be much happier with the results if you use test also.

IMO, I believe that Eq only is best used when it is sport oriented...like, if you are a sprinter or if you were looking to get stronger but stay in a certain weight class.


   
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(@hydr0c1d3)
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I wanted to do EQ only because it is my first cycle and from what I've read it would have a low occurence of side effects. But if adding test (it would be Enth 500mg wkly) would make that big of a jump in gains then I think I would have to go for it. So probably like an average B&B; cycle of...

Week 1-10 500mg Enthanate (250mg Sunday and Thursday)
Week 1-10 400mg EQ (200mg Sunday and Thursday)

Then of course post-cycle of Clomid (not to sure of how to run the post, so that would be good to find out before I start anything)...

Also, If I have un-used Nolv from the Cycle as a med-kit should I use the rest of them in the post as well?


   
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shortz
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If you have clomid, use that, if not, yes, you can use the Nolva.


   
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P.T.B.W
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I think test should always form a base, but it depends on the goals of the individual cycle. EQ will be lean but limited gains.


   
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(@freakzilla-69)
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I personally think that Eq is a great drug for both dieting and cutting, however if you using it in a mass cycle then you definetly need to throw in at least 500 mgs of test. Eq does a great job of stimulating my appetite, just make sure your diet is right.


   
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stivard
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get test with it
eq only will not give u great gains

THE CYCLE GURU


   
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 Bjj
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What if he ads some Winny....that should make him put on a couple of pounds.


   
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(@shiffteeslim)
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Posted by: Bjj
What if he ads some Winny....that should make him put on a couple of pounds.

My second cycle was eq 400mg a week for 16 weeks and 40 mg winny ed for the last 5 weeks and I put on a about 15 lbs. It came real slow and steady, but was easy to keep on also. Next time I do it though, I will definitely add prop along with it.


   
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(@trulyhuge)
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test ent-500mg's week
EQ-400mg's week

that will do you good!

TH


   
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 Bjj
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Posted by: shiffteeslim
My second cycle was eq 400mg a week for 16 weeks and 40 mg winny ed for the last 5 weeks and I put on a about 15 lbs. It came real slow and steady, but was easy to keep on also. Next time I do it though, I will definitely add prop along with it.

What about ur lifts?...Did u get stronger??


   
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